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Post by Chromeo on Apr 6, 2010 17:45:04 GMT -5
People die, that's life. There will always be a shortage on healthcare. The people who are the most willing to pay for it should get it. And what are businesses supposed to do, continue spending recklessly until they can't afford it? Unlike government, they'd have to stop and shut down at a certain point. Clearly if the recession has proved anything it's that businesses can do whatever they want and run up as big a deficit as they like and it'll be up to us to bail them out in the end. And that's a terrible world view. The people who need healthcare should get it. It's not like it's impossible to cover everyone. |
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Post by Tails82 on Apr 6, 2010 17:45:43 GMT -5
It seems you people think Socialism means nobody has to work. Of course people work, how would the damn system work otherwise? Of course, I love how dictatorships are so efficient and have full employment. |
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Post by Chromeo on Apr 6, 2010 17:47:48 GMT -5
Fine, I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to work to improve your situation, but free market capitalism is heartless.
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Post by Tails82 on Apr 6, 2010 17:48:24 GMT -5
People die, that's life. There will always be a shortage on healthcare. The people who are the most willing to pay for it should get it. And what are businesses supposed to do, continue spending recklessly until they can't afford it? Unlike government, they'd have to stop and shut down at a certain point. Clearly if the recession has proved anything it's that businesses can do whatever they want and run up as big a deficit as they like and it'll be up to us to bail them out in the end. And that's a terrible world view. The people who need healthcare should get it. It's not like it's impossible to cover everyone. If the government would just let the failing businesses fail we'd be left with the better ones. But nope, we gotta socialize the losses. It is impossible to cover everyone. Someone has to pay for it, it should be the people who are getting the treatment, because the rich are not a renewable resource. |
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Post by Chromeo on Apr 6, 2010 17:55:51 GMT -5
Whatever, I'm never going to convince you. It just pisses me off how you two think.
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Post by little j ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔ on Apr 6, 2010 17:59:19 GMT -5
People die, that's life. There will always be a shortage on healthcare. The people who are the most willing to pay for it should get it. And what are businesses supposed to do, continue spending recklessly until they can't afford it? Unlike government, they'd have to stop and shut down at a certain point. Clearly if the recession has proved anything it's that businesses can do whatever they want and run up as big a deficit as they like and it'll be up to us to bail them out in the end. I was not in support of big bailouts. I, for one, am looking forward to massive economic collapse. |
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Post by Laharls_Wrath on Apr 6, 2010 17:59:28 GMT -5
Whatever, I'm never going to convince you. It just pisses me off how you two think. You have no idea how pissed off I get at your way of thinking your a fool who thinks the rich should be punished because they managed to succeed |
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Post by Tails82 on Apr 6, 2010 18:00:26 GMT -5
Whatever, I'm never going to convince you. It just pisses me off how you two think. I'm sorry we're not as enlightened or compassionate as you are. I blame other people for this. |
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Post by Chromeo on Apr 6, 2010 18:01:12 GMT -5
And you think the poor should be left for dead. Touche.
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Post by Laharls_Wrath on Apr 6, 2010 18:02:43 GMT -5
And you think the poor should be left for dead. Touche. I sure as hell dont think other should have to pay for the poor because the poor failed to get somewhere |
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Post by Tails82 on Apr 6, 2010 18:02:44 GMT -5
Better to not get treatment because I can't afford it than to have someone say I can't get it.
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Post by Chromeo on Apr 6, 2010 18:05:35 GMT -5
Better to not get treatment because I can't afford it than to have someone say I can't get it. Maybe you dont quite understand the concept of universal healthcare. |
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Post by little j ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔ on Apr 6, 2010 18:06:06 GMT -5
And you think the poor should be left for dead. Touche. Who said anything about that? The poor should be helped out as much as possible, but I hate it when the government tries forcing me to do so. It not not Christian to force others to be Christian. |
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Post by Tails82 on Apr 6, 2010 18:07:41 GMT -5
Better to not get treatment because I can't afford it than to have someone say I can't get it. Maybe you dont quite understand the concept of universal healthcare. Oh sorry, I forgot everybody wins! I'll get that treatment if I'm still alive after that long waiting list. |
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Post by Chromeo on Apr 6, 2010 18:07:57 GMT -5
Tell that to the people who died of treatable conditions every year because some fatcat decided they weren't a profitable business venture any more. |
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