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Post by Chromeo on Apr 6, 2010 17:24:25 GMT -5
Is that why something like the top 5 countries for standards of living are in Europe?
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Post by Chromeo on Apr 6, 2010 17:26:13 GMT -5
Okay, except Australia. But whatever man, they're Australia >_>
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Post by Tails82 on Apr 6, 2010 17:26:52 GMT -5
That's subjective...
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Post by Laharls_Wrath on Apr 6, 2010 17:27:21 GMT -5
well hell
if everything's handed to you why not?
fuck
why should I bother going to college and getting a good job with healthcare benefits if the government is just going to pay?
fucking Obama can go to hell
why the fuck should I even try in life? the government will just take care of me, I'll just become another useless goddamned leech
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Post by Laharls_Wrath on Apr 6, 2010 17:28:55 GMT -5
fuck
the government is paying you to go to school and we all see how fucking well that is working
oh yeah socialism is definitely going to make the world a better place, turn everyone into useless lazy fucking bastards
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Post by Chromeo on Apr 6, 2010 17:30:06 GMT -5
No, you're right, people who don't have a good job don't deserve healthcare, do they?
If you really want to fend for yourself without pesky social welfare bossing you around, why don't you go live in Somalia, and see how much you like your precious financial freedom then?
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Post by Tails82 on Apr 6, 2010 17:30:23 GMT -5
fuck the government is paying you to go to school and we all see how fucking well that is working oh yeah socialism is definitely going to make the world a better place, turn everyone into useless lazy fucking bastards ones with no control over their lives, but they don't really care anyway. As long as someone like the rich get punished. |
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Post by Chromeo on Apr 6, 2010 17:31:25 GMT -5
And ruthless capitalism will make the world a better place? Why do you think it's in such a shit state in the first place?
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Post by Tails82 on Apr 6, 2010 17:32:15 GMT -5
No, you're right, people who don't have a good job don't deserve healthcare, do they? If you really want to fend for yourself without pesky social welfare bossing you around, why don't you go live in Somalia, and see how much you like your precious financial freedom then? You gotta work to get the goods in life. I'd rather live in America, we're doing fine before all this healthcare junk and increased expenditures. |
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Post by Chromeo on Apr 6, 2010 17:33:43 GMT -5
Tell that to the people who died of treatable conditions every year because some fatcat decided they weren't a profitable business venture any more.
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Post by Chromeo on Apr 6, 2010 17:36:38 GMT -5
It seems you people think Socialism means nobody has to work. Of course people work, how would the damn system work otherwise? It's just unnecessary for there to be winners and losers in life, like with capitalism.
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Post by little j ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔ on Apr 6, 2010 17:37:21 GMT -5
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Post by Tails82 on Apr 6, 2010 17:38:01 GMT -5
People die, that's life. There will always be a shortage on healthcare. The people who are the most willing to pay for it should get it. And what are businesses supposed to do, continue spending recklessly until they can't afford it? Unlike government, they'd have to stop and shut down at a certain point.
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Post by Chromeo on Apr 6, 2010 17:40:43 GMT -5
It's just unnecessary for there to be winners and losers in life Bwah?! Why does it have to be a competition? >_> |
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Post by Laharls_Wrath on Apr 6, 2010 17:44:36 GMT -5
Competition provides motivation which leads to progress
No motivation is as strong
Hell, you're the one who argues humanity is so great because of its progress
Competition is a necessity
there is no reason to TRY without it
sure I could work, but why try to achieve my potential and work my hardest?
as far as I'm concerned the best argument for socialism was made by Edward Bellamy in Looking Backward and even that was unrealistic, idealistic, and flawed
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