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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2013 10:17:52 GMT -5
"I came—though the child of entirely irreligious (Jewish) parents—to a deep religiousness, which, however, reached an abrupt end at the age of twelve. Through the reading of popular scientific books I soon reached the conviction that much in the stories of the Bible could not be true. The consequence was a positively fanatic orgy of freethinking coupled with the impression that youth is intentionally being deceived by the state through lies; it was a crushing impression. Mistrust of every kind of authority grew out of this experience, a skeptical attitude toward the convictions that were alive in any specific social environment—an attitude that has never again left me, even though, later on, it has been tempered by a better insight into the causal connections. It is quite clear to me that the religious paradise of youth, which was thus lost, was a first attempt to free myself from the chains of the 'merely personal,' from an existence dominated by wishes, hopes, and primitive feelings. Out yonder there was this huge world, which exists independently of us human beings and which stands before us like a great, eternal riddle, at least partially accessible to our inspection and thinking. The contemplation of this world beckoned as a liberation, and I soon noticed that many a man whom I had learned to esteem and to admire had found inner freedom and security in its pursuit. The mental grasp of this extra-personal world within the frame of our capabilities presented itself to my mind, half consciously, half unconsciously, as a supreme goal. Similarly motivated men of the present and of the past, as well as the insights they had achieved, were the friends who could not be lost. The road to this paradise was not as comfortable and alluring as the road to the religious paradise; but it has shown itself reliable, and I have never regretted having chosen it."
- Albert Einstein
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Post by Jordan Ω on Jul 22, 2013 10:31:46 GMT -5
'God does not play dice with the universe.' -Albert Einstein
It's actually funny, he didn't say this having anything to do with religion, I'm pretty sure that he was just a big believer in determinism and thought that everything could be predicted and he was disagreeing with some guy that said quantum stuff is completely random, and the retort was the above quote about God and dice.
But taken out of context it seems that you could indeed interperet it to mean that Einstein was religious of some sort.
No such luck.
Jewish pride, though. Woo!
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Post by Laharls_Wrath on Jul 22, 2013 21:35:14 GMT -5
to continue with the Einstein quotations
"All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree. All these aspirations are directed toward ennobling man's life, lifting it from the sphere of mere physical existence and leading the individual towards freedom." ~Albert Einstein
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2013 23:20:52 GMT -5
"It seems to me that the idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I cannot take seriously. I feel also not able to imagine some will or goal outside the human sphere. My views are near those of Spinoza: admiration for the beauty of and belief in the logical simplicity of the order which we can grasp humbly and only imperfectly. I believe that we have to content ourselves with our imperfect knowledge and understanding and treat values and moral obligations as a purely human problem—the most important of all human problems." - Albert Einstein Religious? Possibly. Any of your religions? nope.avi "It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it." - Albert Einstein
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Post by Jordan Ω on Jul 22, 2013 23:51:39 GMT -5
To that first quote, saying that we HAVE to content ourselves with imperfect stuff and treat values and morals as purely a human problem doesn't seem right. The right religion, I believe, would answer those questions, and could leave you more satisfied than none at all. Maybe it's late, but I didn't really get that Spinoza thing. More accurately, I didn't really get what he thought of God, specifically. It seems he was into determinism, right? And only a semi-advocate of free will (Or rather that it existed). Seems pretty interesting, but I don't think I'd go so far as to call it religion. Now I'mma look up the definition: Noun 1. The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, esp. a personal God or gods. 2. Details of belief as taught or discussed. Maybe the second one. But could that mean a belief in anything? so if I'm not wearing a shirt right now, and i believe it, am I part of the religion of Shirtless People? Also, to continue with the theme, 'Any man who can drive safely while kissing a pretty girl is simply not giving the kiss the attention it deserves.' ~Einstein (according to www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/a/albert_einstein.html)
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Post by Mastery on Jul 23, 2013 0:12:15 GMT -5
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.” Albert E=mc^2
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Post by Jordan Ω on Jul 23, 2013 23:49:18 GMT -5
Sorry to break the trend, but Thomas Harris is awesome: "Killing must feel good to God, too — he does it all the time. And are we not created in his own image?"
DISCLAIMER: I DON'T BELIEVE IT I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS COOL KAY
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Post by Pyro ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔ on Jul 24, 2013 5:59:21 GMT -5
"Those thinkers who cannot believe in any gods Thou shalt have no other gods before me. - God. That dude with his multiple GODS would have gone to hell. Haha shame.
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Post by Chromeo on Jul 24, 2013 13:55:29 GMT -5
"You are the children of a dead planet, earthdeirdre, and this death we do not comprehend. We shall take you in, but may we ask this question--will we too catch the planetdeath disease?"
--Lady Deirdre Skye Conversations With Planet
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Post by Tails82 on Jul 30, 2013 8:07:58 GMT -5
Old files "furry porn is not porn" -Ally
what...
From the rest of that conversation I'm sortof glad it's over. I have high standards, sue me.
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Post by Tails82 on Aug 11, 2013 6:15:59 GMT -5
"The people that are most discouraged and made despondent by the barbarity and stupidity of human behavior...are those who...cling to an optimistic belief in the civilizing influence of progress and enlightenment. To them, the appalling outburst of bestial ferocity in the Totalitarian States, and the obstinate selfishness and stupid greed of Capitalist Society, are not merely shocking and alarming. For them, these things are the utter negation of everything which they have believed. It is as though the bottom had dropped out of their universe. The whole thing looks like a denial of reason, and they feel as if they and the world had gone mad together. Now for the Christian this is not so. He is as deeply shocked and grieved as anybody else, but he is not astonished. He has never thought very highly of human nature left to itself. He has been accustomed to the idea that there is a very deep interior dislocation in the very center of human personality, and that you can never, as they say, 'make people good by an Act of Parliament'...The delusion of the mechanical perfectability of mankind through a combined process of scientific knowledge and unconscious evolution has been responsible for a great deal of heartbreak. It is, at bottom, far more pessimistic than Christian pessimism, because, if science and progress break down, there is nothing to fall back on. Humanism is self-contained - it provides for man no resources outside himself." -Dorothy Sayers
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Post by Pyro ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔ on Aug 11, 2013 6:27:56 GMT -5
Old files "furry porn is not porn" -Ally what... From the rest of that conversation I'm sortof glad it's over. I have high standards, sue me. Whats over? PM me the rest of the convo, i dun wanna be taken outta context.
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Post by Tails82 on Aug 11, 2013 7:04:42 GMT -5
A lot of things.
I'd PM it now but when I was going through the file I moved it to the laptop.
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Post by Tails82 on Aug 12, 2013 7:38:59 GMT -5
"When we deny the evil in ourselves, we dehumanize ourselves, and we deprive ourselves not only of our own destiny but of any possibility of dealing with the evil in others." -J. Robert Oppenheimer
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Post by Chromeo on Aug 12, 2013 8:09:28 GMT -5
Oh sure, the guy who developed the nuclear bomb, that's a good choice to lecture the world on ethics.
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