Tails82
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Post by Tails82 on May 22, 2013 18:16:21 GMT -5
"There's arguments for and against but I'm of the opinion that if a region's people want to secede and can't and face legal/government persecution then that's oppression."
Nitro=Confederate?
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Post by Chromeo on May 22, 2013 18:41:26 GMT -5
Lincoln was wrong imo to attack purely to preserve the union, if he had actually done it to free the slaves and not just decided to do that as an aside it might have been different.
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Post by Chromeo on May 22, 2013 18:41:52 GMT -5
Or was it the Confederates that attacked that fort or somesuch first? Maybe it was.
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Tails82
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Post by Tails82 on May 22, 2013 18:58:14 GMT -5
*facewherever*
You're adorable
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Post by Chromeo on May 22, 2013 19:07:38 GMT -5
Thanks I think. Seriously, I would bet you I know more about the civil war than like 90% of Brits do even with my limited knowledge (hell most of them don't even know our own history), I think I did okay.
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Post by Mastery on May 22, 2013 19:12:13 GMT -5
If the confederates had seceded with no reppurcussions than the US would have fallen apart.
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Post by Chromeo on May 22, 2013 19:14:07 GMT -5
If the confederates had seceded with no reppurcussions than the US would have fallen apart. Why? Seems the Northern states were happy enough to stay in...
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Tails82
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Post by Tails82 on May 22, 2013 19:16:45 GMT -5
What kind of precedent would it have set?
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Post by Chromeo on May 22, 2013 19:19:20 GMT -5
The precedent that the union was you know, a union, and not more like a crime family that you can never leave without getting whacked?
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Post by Chromeo on May 22, 2013 19:20:03 GMT -5
But then maybe I'm biased since I think the union should break up anyway and the red and blue states go their separate ways.
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Post by Mastery on May 22, 2013 19:25:09 GMT -5
Would they always have been happy to stay in? etc.
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Post by Chromeo on May 22, 2013 19:29:27 GMT -5
Why shouldn't they be allowed to leave if they wanted to...
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Post by Mastery on May 22, 2013 22:22:53 GMT -5
Because they're not individuals. People have rights. States aren't people.
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Post by Chromeo on May 23, 2013 3:33:10 GMT -5
States are just collections of people : /
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Post by Mastery on May 23, 2013 6:46:34 GMT -5
So are corporations.
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