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Post by Tails82 on Oct 5, 2013 22:13:08 GMT -5
There's no "right," and it certainly hasn't been made affordable, aaand it's not going to do anything for 30 million people. Remind me why this got passed again?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2013 22:37:25 GMT -5
In many places, having federal level healthcare is the only access to healthcare even available. Where there is already existing coverage, federal level healthcare means people with existing conditions aren't just thrown under a bus by private entities who would rather have a "safe" insurance pool than worry about, I dunno, sick people needing treatment? Even among healthy people in areas with coverage, federal health care is significantly cheaper thanks to the large scale funding preventing the previous issue private insurance has from being applicable.
Remind me why you're so upset this got passed again?
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Post by Tails82 on Oct 5, 2013 22:52:54 GMT -5
Costs rise as a result, you can't just add pre-existing conditions to the pool and not expect that to happen. If not through more money, then through more time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2013 23:37:44 GMT -5
Such is the price to pay for comprehensive health care? (which you still don't have to pay into, btw, being both religiously exempt and allowed to keep your old plan) I don't know what bizarro world you come from, but generally people with health problems are the ones who most need access to health care.
And again, prices for this new federal care are frequently lower than private care anyway.
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Post by Tails82 on Oct 6, 2013 0:27:01 GMT -5
It's like everything you say is from 2009
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2013 0:31:55 GMT -5
Oh, I'm sorry.
That better for you?
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Post by Tails82 on Oct 6, 2013 0:40:19 GMT -5
It hasn't been repealed in years because Obama is in the way.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2013 0:48:55 GMT -5
This country is a democracy for better or worse, and the prez man can certainly say "dude, I like this law" and make things harder to reverse, but he is never the final say. Simply enough, no attempt at repealing it has carried enough weight to do so. Ergo, they resort to trying underhanded tricks like forcing a budget shutdown to try and pressure people into butchering the bill.
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Post by Tails82 on Oct 6, 2013 0:57:59 GMT -5
Obamacare was supposed to save us money, remember? That was quite the daydream. Anyway it will work better on 70 percent funding because then the explosion is not as big.
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Post by Chromeo on Oct 6, 2013 1:05:11 GMT -5
Obama was elected versus someone planning to repeal Obamacare
why do you hate America/democracy?
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Post by Tails82 on Oct 6, 2013 1:09:22 GMT -5
The Obamacare repealers were elected too, that's what they're doing, it's the process.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2013 1:20:26 GMT -5
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Post by Tails82 on Oct 6, 2013 9:15:15 GMT -5
Not a fan of RINOs
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2013 14:44:42 GMT -5
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Post by Tails82 on Oct 6, 2013 15:28:33 GMT -5
You either oppose Obamacare and be a Republican, or you support it and support Democrats. It's not that hard to understand.
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