Jake aka Nitro aka BOCKAGE
Jul 2, 2012 17:59:59 GMT -5
Post by Chromeo on Jul 2, 2012 17:59:59 GMT -5
storage, don't read unless you really want to
[14:38] Nitro Landar: That's my plan, yes :P I'm sorry, I don't to bore you with my crap
[14:41] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): Oh not at all. I'm pleased you feel comfortable enough with me to be able to share some of your burdens with me.
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[14:46] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): WB
[14:46] Nitro Landar: thanks
[14:46] Nitro Landar: lag, you know how it is
[14:48] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): Sadly all too well.
[14:49] Nitro Landar: I do feel pretty comfortable with you but honestly when I get in a mood it's hard to stop me from complaining to everyone and anyone
[14:53] Nitro Landar: Do you ever feel like there's no point in yourself?
[14:54] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): Occasionally I think everyone feels a little like that. Things pile up and you wonder what's the point. That said, there are all kinds of things that one can look at that help those thoughts fly out of mind.
[14:57] Nitro Landar: Mmm...
[14:57] Nitro Landar: I'm a depressive you see. Kind of sucks sometimes.
[15:01] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): Well I can't really speak to that. After all, "snap out of it" kinds of comments don't really help someone with depression. After all if it were that easy you'd have done it already. :) Just know that there are very few things in life that are so overwhelming that they can't be overcome with time and effort.
[15:04] Nitro Landar: Yeah... I guess you're right...
[15:04] Nitro Landar: I'm sorry, thanks for trying to help, I just feel kinda down
[15:05] Nitro Landar: I get this periodically
[15:05] Nitro Landar: Have you been in relationships?
[15:05] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): I have. Good ones and bad ones.
[15:05] Nitro Landar: Do they make things seem better?... >_>
[15:06] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): They can. You just have to be in one of the good ones. They take time and effort to make work though. So they can't be rushed and you can't be too discouraged if they take time to develop.
[15:11] Nitro Landar: Sigh. I've never really had one. I guess that's pretty lame. Sorry.
[15:12] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): It's not lame. As I said, it isn't something that can be rushed. Often it's when you least expect it that you find someone and things develop naturally.
[15:13] Nitro Landar: But what if you never find someone >_>
[15:14] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): If you start out thinking like that then it can become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Negative thoughts beget negative thoughts. Never is a VERY long time, and is not easy to envision. So my suggestion is to just take things day by day and do what you can to enjoy the little things.
[15:17] Nitro Landar: I just feel like... the world is leaving me behind, you know...
[15:17] Nitro Landar: Most people my age have had sex and I've, okay, this is how you know I'm comfortable with you, I've never even kissed anyone before...
[15:18] Nitro Landar: It's so... pathetic... and it's nobody else's fault but... mine...
[15:20] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): Listen, when things are right they are right. You are still young. Do not judge what is right for you by what those around you either claim to have done or have done. Everyone is different and so you should not try and live up to someone else's expectations. Just live for yourself and do what is right for you.
[15:24] Nitro Landar: But still, I bet you think less of me now that you know all that crap, right >_>
[15:25] Nitro Landar: I'm sorry, that makes it sound like I blame you, that's not what I'm saying
[15:26] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): Nope. Just shows that you've been smart enough to not do something you aren't/weren't ready for. Again, you seem young; too young to get hung up on this kind of thing. There is LOTS of time for you to have relationships.
[15:26] Nitro Landar: I just... I see myself, you know, in ten years, still so alone and it just makes me so depressed
[15:26] Nitro Landar: I'm youngish, but I would have been ready for sex and all that crap if anyone would have actually been attracted to me >_>
[15:27] Nitro Landar: It's not that I have inner maturity, it's just that I suck as a human being generally
[15:29] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): Only thing I can see that is wrong with you is a lack of confidence. It isn't easy to get, but if you work on that I am sure that you will find a woman that is drawn to you. You don't have to be a macho ass to show confidence, just think of the things you are good at and take some pride in them. That is a good starting point.
[15:29] Nitro Landar: See I told you I was annoying when I'm depressed :P
[15:30] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): Not annoying, you just need someone to vent to. I have been there, I know the feeling. Sometimes you just have to unburden yourself of all the pent up frustrations is all.
[15:30] Nitro Landar: I find it easy to talk to people but I just don't know anything about how to, I don't know, flirt, or any of that stuff
[15:31] Nitro Landar: If I met the perfect girl and I wanted to ask her on a date or whatever the kids do nowadays or I wanted to kiss her I'd have no idea how to go about it
[15:32] Nitro Landar: Probably what I would do is have a pretty pleasant conversation, not get her name or number or whatever, and then afterwards never see her again
[15:32] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): With the right girl, she will help you along with that. Sometimes the bashful ones are the most attractive to a girl. Because they aren't trying to prove anything.
[15:33] Nitro Landar: What if I'm not good looking enough for anyone to want to help me along >_>;;
[15:33] Nitro Landar: I look okay, kinda, I think, but not anything impressive
[15:34] Nitro Landar: And my personality is okay but pretty uninteresting and awkward, and sometimes incredibly annoying like now
[15:34] Nitro Landar: With that stuff put together I just don't think anyone would 'help me along' when there are so many other, better people out there
[15:35] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): I am a firm believer in that there is almost no one that can't find someone to share themselves with. Looks are often a crutch for shallow people. Personality, confidence, and the way someone carries themselves can often make a BIG difference regardless of looks.
[15:35] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): So just work on those "intangibles" and you will be fine.
[15:36] Nitro Landar: Confidence and the way I carry myself are both pretty hard, so what's a good personality?
[15:38] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): I can't say exactly. That varies from person to person. Everyone is drawn to different things and to different types of folks. You don't have to be the life of the party or anything, just play to your strengths. If you are smart, play to that (without coming across as arrogant). If you are funny, use that to your advantage. Etc... everyone has different strengths and everyone has different things they are drawn to.
[15:39] Nitro Landar: I'm sorry, this probably isn't what you wanted to spend your day doing...
[15:40] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): It's alright. I'm always glad to be able to lend a sympathetic ear to friends.
[15:40] Nitro Landar: Okay... That means a lot, really, I know I'm not easy to deal with when I'm like this...
[15:40] Nitro Landar: If someone was into me how would I know?
[15:41] Nitro Landar: and if I thought they were what could I do?
[15:42] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): One big hint is that they find reasons to be around you. Then there are subtle signs, hair tosses, light touches, etc...
[15:43] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): There are all kinds of signs and each person's might be a bit different.
[15:45] Sonja Sullivan: As for what to do, nuture things with them. Don't force things right away, build a bit of a foundation of friendship first and then if things seem to be going well just ask them out somewhere in a slightly more intimate less "friendly" more "relationshipy" kind of place.
[15:46] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): So for example if you meet someone that hangs out with a bunch of your friends and you and things seem to be going well, see if she wants to do something without the rest of the group sometime.
[15:48] Nitro Landar: how could I ask that? i"d make it really obvious wouldnt it?...
[15:48] Nitro Landar: it'd*
[15:50] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): Yes, but A) You don't do it right after you meet her. You feel her out first. B) Eventually you will need to be a bit obvious. The worst that can ever happen is that she says that she's not interested in you that way. Believe it or not the words "No thank you" can't do you actual physical harm. :) Just hurt your pride a bit. The key is that if that is what happens, just move on and try again. Eventually you'll click with someone and things will work out.
[15:55] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): Alas, I need to go and get some dinner. I might be back online later though so feel free to chat more then.
[15:56] Nitro Landar: I'll probably be asleep by then but thanks, another time for sure if that's okay. I think you've helped a lot more than usually when I complain to people.
[15:56] Nitro Landar: ^_^
[15:56] Nitro Landar: thanks for the advice, who knows, it might even pay off some day :P
[15:57] Nitro Landar: Good day to you, see you in a couple of days I hope.
[15:57] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): Try and enjoy the time in school. :)
[14:38] Nitro Landar: That's my plan, yes :P I'm sorry, I don't to bore you with my crap
[14:41] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): Oh not at all. I'm pleased you feel comfortable enough with me to be able to share some of your burdens with me.
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[14:46] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): WB
[14:46] Nitro Landar: thanks
[14:46] Nitro Landar: lag, you know how it is
[14:48] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): Sadly all too well.
[14:49] Nitro Landar: I do feel pretty comfortable with you but honestly when I get in a mood it's hard to stop me from complaining to everyone and anyone
[14:53] Nitro Landar: Do you ever feel like there's no point in yourself?
[14:54] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): Occasionally I think everyone feels a little like that. Things pile up and you wonder what's the point. That said, there are all kinds of things that one can look at that help those thoughts fly out of mind.
[14:57] Nitro Landar: Mmm...
[14:57] Nitro Landar: I'm a depressive you see. Kind of sucks sometimes.
[15:01] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): Well I can't really speak to that. After all, "snap out of it" kinds of comments don't really help someone with depression. After all if it were that easy you'd have done it already. :) Just know that there are very few things in life that are so overwhelming that they can't be overcome with time and effort.
[15:04] Nitro Landar: Yeah... I guess you're right...
[15:04] Nitro Landar: I'm sorry, thanks for trying to help, I just feel kinda down
[15:05] Nitro Landar: I get this periodically
[15:05] Nitro Landar: Have you been in relationships?
[15:05] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): I have. Good ones and bad ones.
[15:05] Nitro Landar: Do they make things seem better?... >_>
[15:06] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): They can. You just have to be in one of the good ones. They take time and effort to make work though. So they can't be rushed and you can't be too discouraged if they take time to develop.
[15:11] Nitro Landar: Sigh. I've never really had one. I guess that's pretty lame. Sorry.
[15:12] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): It's not lame. As I said, it isn't something that can be rushed. Often it's when you least expect it that you find someone and things develop naturally.
[15:13] Nitro Landar: But what if you never find someone >_>
[15:14] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): If you start out thinking like that then it can become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Negative thoughts beget negative thoughts. Never is a VERY long time, and is not easy to envision. So my suggestion is to just take things day by day and do what you can to enjoy the little things.
[15:17] Nitro Landar: I just feel like... the world is leaving me behind, you know...
[15:17] Nitro Landar: Most people my age have had sex and I've, okay, this is how you know I'm comfortable with you, I've never even kissed anyone before...
[15:18] Nitro Landar: It's so... pathetic... and it's nobody else's fault but... mine...
[15:20] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): Listen, when things are right they are right. You are still young. Do not judge what is right for you by what those around you either claim to have done or have done. Everyone is different and so you should not try and live up to someone else's expectations. Just live for yourself and do what is right for you.
[15:24] Nitro Landar: But still, I bet you think less of me now that you know all that crap, right >_>
[15:25] Nitro Landar: I'm sorry, that makes it sound like I blame you, that's not what I'm saying
[15:26] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): Nope. Just shows that you've been smart enough to not do something you aren't/weren't ready for. Again, you seem young; too young to get hung up on this kind of thing. There is LOTS of time for you to have relationships.
[15:26] Nitro Landar: I just... I see myself, you know, in ten years, still so alone and it just makes me so depressed
[15:26] Nitro Landar: I'm youngish, but I would have been ready for sex and all that crap if anyone would have actually been attracted to me >_>
[15:27] Nitro Landar: It's not that I have inner maturity, it's just that I suck as a human being generally
[15:29] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): Only thing I can see that is wrong with you is a lack of confidence. It isn't easy to get, but if you work on that I am sure that you will find a woman that is drawn to you. You don't have to be a macho ass to show confidence, just think of the things you are good at and take some pride in them. That is a good starting point.
[15:29] Nitro Landar: See I told you I was annoying when I'm depressed :P
[15:30] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): Not annoying, you just need someone to vent to. I have been there, I know the feeling. Sometimes you just have to unburden yourself of all the pent up frustrations is all.
[15:30] Nitro Landar: I find it easy to talk to people but I just don't know anything about how to, I don't know, flirt, or any of that stuff
[15:31] Nitro Landar: If I met the perfect girl and I wanted to ask her on a date or whatever the kids do nowadays or I wanted to kiss her I'd have no idea how to go about it
[15:32] Nitro Landar: Probably what I would do is have a pretty pleasant conversation, not get her name or number or whatever, and then afterwards never see her again
[15:32] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): With the right girl, she will help you along with that. Sometimes the bashful ones are the most attractive to a girl. Because they aren't trying to prove anything.
[15:33] Nitro Landar: What if I'm not good looking enough for anyone to want to help me along >_>;;
[15:33] Nitro Landar: I look okay, kinda, I think, but not anything impressive
[15:34] Nitro Landar: And my personality is okay but pretty uninteresting and awkward, and sometimes incredibly annoying like now
[15:34] Nitro Landar: With that stuff put together I just don't think anyone would 'help me along' when there are so many other, better people out there
[15:35] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): I am a firm believer in that there is almost no one that can't find someone to share themselves with. Looks are often a crutch for shallow people. Personality, confidence, and the way someone carries themselves can often make a BIG difference regardless of looks.
[15:35] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): So just work on those "intangibles" and you will be fine.
[15:36] Nitro Landar: Confidence and the way I carry myself are both pretty hard, so what's a good personality?
[15:38] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): I can't say exactly. That varies from person to person. Everyone is drawn to different things and to different types of folks. You don't have to be the life of the party or anything, just play to your strengths. If you are smart, play to that (without coming across as arrogant). If you are funny, use that to your advantage. Etc... everyone has different strengths and everyone has different things they are drawn to.
[15:39] Nitro Landar: I'm sorry, this probably isn't what you wanted to spend your day doing...
[15:40] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): It's alright. I'm always glad to be able to lend a sympathetic ear to friends.
[15:40] Nitro Landar: Okay... That means a lot, really, I know I'm not easy to deal with when I'm like this...
[15:40] Nitro Landar: If someone was into me how would I know?
[15:41] Nitro Landar: and if I thought they were what could I do?
[15:42] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): One big hint is that they find reasons to be around you. Then there are subtle signs, hair tosses, light touches, etc...
[15:43] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): There are all kinds of signs and each person's might be a bit different.
[15:45] Sonja Sullivan: As for what to do, nuture things with them. Don't force things right away, build a bit of a foundation of friendship first and then if things seem to be going well just ask them out somewhere in a slightly more intimate less "friendly" more "relationshipy" kind of place.
[15:46] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): So for example if you meet someone that hangs out with a bunch of your friends and you and things seem to be going well, see if she wants to do something without the rest of the group sometime.
[15:48] Nitro Landar: how could I ask that? i"d make it really obvious wouldnt it?...
[15:48] Nitro Landar: it'd*
[15:50] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): Yes, but A) You don't do it right after you meet her. You feel her out first. B) Eventually you will need to be a bit obvious. The worst that can ever happen is that she says that she's not interested in you that way. Believe it or not the words "No thank you" can't do you actual physical harm. :) Just hurt your pride a bit. The key is that if that is what happens, just move on and try again. Eventually you'll click with someone and things will work out.
[15:55] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): Alas, I need to go and get some dinner. I might be back online later though so feel free to chat more then.
[15:56] Nitro Landar: I'll probably be asleep by then but thanks, another time for sure if that's okay. I think you've helped a lot more than usually when I complain to people.
[15:56] Nitro Landar: ^_^
[15:56] Nitro Landar: thanks for the advice, who knows, it might even pay off some day :P
[15:57] Nitro Landar: Good day to you, see you in a couple of days I hope.
[15:57] Sonja (sonja.sullivan): Try and enjoy the time in school. :)