|
|
Post by Chromeo on Jan 8, 2010 16:39:09 GMT -5
Except in the 21st century it wont work like that. People wont just lie down and die when the food runs out. The world will burn.
|
|
Tails82
Lord of Terror++
Loyal Vassal
still...sipping?
Posts: 34,371
|
Post by Tails82 on Jan 8, 2010 16:41:26 GMT -5
Oh yes, I forgot our generation is special and different from everyone else's for some reason. Silly me.
|
|
|
|
Post by Chromeo on Jan 8, 2010 16:46:47 GMT -5
Because we have nukes, and planes and missiles and tanks. If America or China or Russia wanted to destroy civilization, they could. It's naive and frankly selfish to think that world leaders would accept that their population had to die. Either governments will turn on their people, or each other. Either way, it would be a massacre.
|
|
Tails82
Lord of Terror++
Loyal Vassal
still...sipping?
Posts: 34,371
|
Post by Tails82 on Jan 8, 2010 16:48:52 GMT -5
Like war's never happened before >_>
And what about nukes? Extinction hasn't happened before either?
|
|
|
|
Post by Chromeo on Jan 8, 2010 16:52:45 GMT -5
A war where the only way to win is absolute annihilation of your enemy and all their people, with no diplomatic resolution possible and nothing to lose is very different from a war that modern technology has ever seen.
And you're saying you wouldn't care if the human race went extinct? >_>
|
|
Tails82
Lord of Terror++
Loyal Vassal
still...sipping?
Posts: 34,371
|
Post by Tails82 on Jan 8, 2010 16:54:15 GMT -5
I would care, but I'm wondering why you would. Without a God I honestly can't see why anything matters at all.
|
|
|
|
Post by Chromeo on Jan 8, 2010 17:05:07 GMT -5
Because religion is just an outdated belief that creates divisions in society that just lead to oppression, violence, and division? For me, the thing that matters is progress. The struggle to absolutely eradicate human suffering, injustice, etc. That's why Science is so important, and religion, and frankly conservatism is so harmful.
...well, I kinda went off on a tangent there. The point is, since you seem to think the natural order is so important, my purpose in life is continuation of humanity. Not necessarily through reproduction, but through the improvement of life for those alive. Since there is no afterlife, your "immortal soul" is what you contributed to humanity. Okay, I'm kinda rambling. I'll stop.
|
|
Tails82
Lord of Terror++
Loyal Vassal
still...sipping?
Posts: 34,371
|
Post by Tails82 on Jan 8, 2010 17:07:42 GMT -5
But there's no reason to do any of that. Why delay the inevitable...
|
|
|
|
Post by Chromeo on Jan 8, 2010 17:14:06 GMT -5
Of course some day we will all be dead, and some day humanity will end. But why not make it the most spectacular species ever? We work today so that our predecessors can fly spaceships and bang alien babes, dammit!
And to be serious, yes, we will die and we will be forgotten. That's inevitable. Even Shakespeare and Darwin will be forgotten someday. That's why it's so important to live as good as you can. Have as much fun as you want... There's no such thing as too much pleasure in life. >_>
|
|
Tails82
Lord of Terror++
Loyal Vassal
still...sipping?
Posts: 34,371
|
Post by Tails82 on Jan 8, 2010 17:17:52 GMT -5
I find no pleasure in the fact that nothing matters.
|
|
|
|
Post by little j ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔ on Jan 8, 2010 17:18:03 GMT -5
"Predecessors" means "ancestors". Unles you're talking time travel, I think you mean "descendants". I'm not trying anything anyone tells me. Oh come now, I've talked you into working out. >_> |
|
|
|
Post by Chromeo on Jan 8, 2010 17:24:38 GMT -5
Crap. I thought it was the opposite to ancestors for a second there >_> My word dissection has failed meee I find no pleasure in the fact that nothing matters. Obviously it would be nice if when we die there's going to be someone to pat us on the back and say "you did a good job" and let us chill there forever, but lets face it, it's a bedtime story. We are simply an evolved animal. When we die, we're gone. the only higher calling is to improve the human race, as I keep saying... But is that really so bad? It seems sort of liberating, to me. No omnipotent being is going to judge my life and tell me that I did it wrong. |
|
Tails82
Lord of Terror++
Loyal Vassal
still...sipping?
Posts: 34,371
|
Post by Tails82 on Jan 8, 2010 17:33:21 GMT -5
It's not liberating at all. It means we're stuck here in an infinite loop. If there's no "divine spark" or whatever and consciousness arose from nothing, it just means we'll keep coming back after death as some other conscious being almost instantaneously (from our perspective), then keep suffering for eternity and not even know it >_>
|
|
|
|
Post by thewave on Jan 8, 2010 17:35:25 GMT -5
I'm not trying anything anyone tells me. Oh come now, I've talked you into working out. >_> Yeah, but that's the only thing. Beside that I'm not trying anything anyone tells me. |
|
|
|
Post by Chromeo on Jan 8, 2010 17:41:12 GMT -5
Actually, I would argue that consciousness is totally linked to the body. When the brain dies, our "soul" dies, forever. So, uh, I guess you wont have to worry about eternal torment >_>
...Yeah, life is a little depressing, but we're here, and I suppose you have to make the most of it.
|
|
Spinning round and round like the deadly hands of a radium clock. 
