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Post by Pyro ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔ on Sept 14, 2013 17:05:13 GMT -5
Hello my friends. I love you all. Especially you. Tell me about your religion. What it means to you? Why are you religious? How it has helped you in your life? Whats the best part about it? Do you think Tails is crazy?  What happens when you die? Where were you before you were born? |
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Post by Tails82 on Sept 14, 2013 18:29:07 GMT -5
www.usccb.org/beliefs-and-teachings/what-we-believe/It's the most important thing, which drives my life and prepares me for the next. Experience and right reason. Man is not an animal but a moral being, who can learn and do great things. It is written in our conscience and revealed to us in nature. Inspiration, also challenges. Calls to be the best I can be. Unity with others. The joy in knowing love conquers all. I would call myself tough but fair. Sometimes not, though. God will judge. An idea.
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Post by Chromeo on Sept 14, 2013 18:56:08 GMT -5
Secular Humanism (that's atheism with a little extra to you)
My politics is more important to me ultimately than religion. But my 'religion' also feeds into my political views and is pretty important anyway.
N/A. I'm a humanist because I think it's the best religious ideology. I'd only defect if there was some kind of supercharged specifically socialist atheism, and even then that hardly conflicts with secular humanism.
It means my decisions are based on what is factual and real rather than some terrible measure like 'faith'.
Not having to put up with all the puritan bullshit so I can focus on real moral problems and injustices.
Well, sorta. Sometimes more sometimes less.
I can't know for sure, but I don't see any reason to think being dead won't be exactly like being not-born, as in I don't exist in any way whatsoever, don't experience anything, etc. Like how your conciousness ends when going to sleep but then never coming back.
The same place, or I should say not-place of not existing.
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Post by kode54 on Sept 14, 2013 19:02:04 GMT -5
Hello my friends. I love you all. Especially you. Thank you. *hugs* Tell me about your religion. I was originally raised LDS, but then our family distanced itself from religion. I have since fallen towards agnostic atheism, or secular humanism, or something that doesn't involve any immortal deity so long as I reside in this mortal coil. LDS as I was originally introduced to it meant getting up early on Sunday and going to boring church where I had to listen to someone talk for an hour, then I got to go to Primary and sing songs and do activities. Then I reached 8, where I was baptised by immersion and suddenly became fully responsible for my own actions in the eyes of the church. Primary was still fun though. Then I got to age 12 and joined the priesthood, and thus the last two hours of my church service became boring scripture reading. I learned a great deal of interesting things, but they didn't really excite me about the afterlife. I went to LDS temples a few times to participate in or perform services, which I sort of felt bad about at the time, because I lied to my bishop when he asked me if I masturbated and I told him no, when I really did, like most normal people do. I didn't really feel comfortable telling my creep of a bishop anything personal anyway, as I don't think there was ever any illusion of privacy involved. As years moved on, our whole family grew tired of being around so many pretentious self-righteous assholes, so we stopped attending services. How ironic that we moved to a house that's facing the block housing that chapel. Now I simply refuse to believe that any intelligent and benevolent creator would interfere in any way with his creations, which includes teaching them about himself and asking them to worship him. I now believe that morality develops along with an intelligent and democratic society, as more people start to believe that they should behave as they would wish other people to behave. And with a governing body developing and enforcing the rules of the land, people will mostly try to follow the rules and play nice, because they fear mortal retribution. Yes, mortal retribution. If you do not hold strong the idea of an afterlife, you also develop a desire to live long and prosper. Sure, you may break some laws, but you'll definitely desire to avoid doing anything that could get you caught by the law. While I suppose lacking a fear of eternal retribution may not stop people from doing harm to others, those people are likely to be sociopaths who would do harm with no consideration of others even with the fear of eternal damnation hanging over their heads. It also helped my craziness that I stopped believing that an eternal god and all my dead relatives were all watching over me all the time. Ye gods, find something better to do than play eternal voyeur. I was religious because my parents forced me to be religious. I stopped being religious when it was no longer fulfilling to me or my family. How it has helped you in your life? It helped me to realize that religious people are off their rockers and often the worst of hypocrites. Although my mom tells me that the Episcopal church she grew up with in her early years was quite fulfilling, as opposed to all of our later years as LDS. Whats the best part about it? The best parts were the innocent stages, the beginnings. Except for all the indoctrination. Damn if I can't get some of those catchy LDS Primary songs out of my head even today. The church would happily tell me that God is putting those songs in my head at strategic moments to keep me strong. Logic says that it is just my own mind playing association games with me. Do you think Tails is crazy? Hell yes. But then, so am I. And like he would think his flavor of crazy is better than mine, I think my own flavor of crazy is better than his. Or at least it's better to me. I don't oppose his religious views, I just oppose him pushing them on anyone else. Keep that shit to yourself, yo. What happens when you die? Impossible to know. If you die, you can't very well tell the living what it's like, unless you're brought back from the dead somehow. And there's really no telling whether a death you can be revived from qualifies you for an afterlife during your time of death, or whether you'll simply be in some sort of mind internal existence that is immeasurable to current scientific or medical equipment. As in, if there is an afterlife, you may not actually experience it if your body is destined to be revived successfully. But then, my current belief is that while there may be an afterlife of some sort, I don't really believe in it since I haven't seen it yet, so I live my life like it's all there is, and make every moment count. Where were you before you were born? An egg in my mother's ovaries and one of the countless sperm cells produced by my biological father. So many factors may be traced back, though. I was also the genetic lines leading up to both of them, and I was also the life experiences that brought the two of them together for their brief relationship. Whether or not I was in some other plane of existence before I was delivered, I do not remember, as human beings are really only capable of attaching recall to long term memories after they have been taught language. |
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Post by kode54 on Sept 14, 2013 20:50:50 GMT -5
Addendum: From that childhood experience, nothing quite like participating in or observing a room full of children singing Book of Mormon Stories, terminating every line by loudly thumping on their bibles.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2013 22:39:02 GMT -5
Tao. Keeping in mind the thing is hardly organized, it's hard to really pin down any particular widely accepted beliefs. I've also been told my particular view on things isn't really a religion, but eh. Personally, anything associated with Taoism that involves the afterlife, immortals, personal longevity, Qi, Shen, and Jing are to be ignored. Mostly that just leaves the Tao itself for me. The Tao is the way things work. Like, a growing tree is just being a tree. Trees grow, that's what trees do. This whole concept, generally.Because it seems reasonable, honestly. Every single observed facet of the universe so far has an internal balance, from the simple equalization of temperatures to quantum entanglement. While inherently unprovable, being that the Tao is not an active shaper and more of an observed truth, it is also inherently impossible to disprove. Meditation helped kick my insomnia, but I guess that's about it for physical bonuses. For a bad metaphor, knowing how the pieces on a chess board move will not make you a master of chess, but you will understand the way of chess. The Tao doesn't act, the Tao just is. Life functions have ended or not yet begun, respectively. There's nothing special about death; this is also just the way of things. |
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Post by Jordan Ω on Sept 14, 2013 23:57:34 GMT -5
This should be fun.  I feel like that's not true... Judaism? Jeez, that'll take a while. Um. Socrates did say that brevity is the soul of wit, and Jews are nothing if not witty, so here goes: We believe that an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent singular God created the universe and then humanity, some time later. After sufficient time, He bestowed the Torah, both the written and the oral, upon the nation known then as the Ivrim, or Hebrews. This book/Bible contained many laws, among other things such as lessons for and the purpose of life. Fun stuff. |
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Post by Pyro ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔ on Sept 15, 2013 0:30:07 GMT -5
Hmm so far Money's religion sounds the most interesting to me. Can you describe it in your own words? I'd rather hear from you. I feel like that's not true... You're right, I don't love Waveo.  |
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Post by Jordan Ω on Sept 15, 2013 0:35:25 GMT -5
Jordan, please, danke.
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Post by Pyro ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔ on Sept 22, 2013 2:27:58 GMT -5
Feast of Saint Matthew, Apostle and evangelist
Lectionary: 643
Reading 1 Eph 4:1-7, 11-13
Brothers and sisters:
I, a prisoner for the Lord,
urge you to live in a manner worthy of the call you have received,
with all humility and gentleness, with patience,
bearing with one another through love,
striving to preserve the unity of the Spirit
through the bond of peace:
one Body and one Spirit,
as you were also called to the one hope of your call;
one Lord, one faith, one baptism;
one God and Father of all,
who is over all and through all and in all.
But grace was given to each of us
according to the measure of Christ’s gift.
And he gave some as Apostles, others as prophets,
others as evangelists, others as pastors and teachers,
to equip the holy ones for the work of ministry,
for building up the Body of Christ,
until we all attain to the unity of faith
and knowledge of the Son of God, to mature manhood,
to the extent of the full stature of Christ.
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Post by Tails82 on Sept 22, 2013 11:19:43 GMT -5
If you're a day ahead, which day do I pick?
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Post by Mastery on Sept 22, 2013 14:53:09 GMT -5
I'm your friend. I love you. <3 |
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Post by Tails82 on Apr 19, 2014 14:51:06 GMT -5
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Post by Chromeo on Apr 19, 2014 16:00:37 GMT -5
If only there was something a guy who lives in a golden palace and whose organisation turns over billions annually could do for the poor.
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Post by Pyro ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ ✔ on Apr 19, 2014 18:36:29 GMT -5
 someone shot the pope! |
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